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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:00 am
Post subject: Intel's New Weapons: Pentium 4 E (Prescott)
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:00 am
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Wayne Youngman wrote:
> Hi,
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> Reviews so far. . . .
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> Anandtech: Intel's Pentium 4 E: Prescott Arrives with Luggage
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://tinyurl.com/yuqml</font" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yuqml</font</a>>
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> Tomshardware: Intel's New Weapons: Pentium 4 Prescott
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://tinyurl.com/2cd45</font" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/2cd45</font</a>>
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And a few more:
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<a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://hothardware.com/hh_files/CCAM/p4prescott_p4ee34.shtml" target="_blank">http://hothardware.com/hh_files/CCAM/p4prescott_p4ee34.shtml</a>
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:41 am
Post subject: Re: Intel's New Weapons: Pentium 4 E (Prescott) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Makes you wonder what all the fuss was about.
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"Wayne Youngman" wrote in message
> Hi,
>
> Reviews so far. . . .
>
> Anandtech: Intel's Pentium 4 E: Prescott Arrives with Luggage
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://tinyurl.com/yuqml</font" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yuqml</font</a>>
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> Tomshardware: Intel's New Weapons: Pentium 4 Prescott
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://tinyurl.com/2cd45</font" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/2cd45</font</a>>
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> --
> Wayne ][
> <new specs coming soon!>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:01 am
Post subject: Re: Intel's New Weapons: Pentium 4 E (Prescott) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks for posting the links. One question, however, about the Anandtech
review. Why does the writer think that a a micro-op is only one byte long,
and see the 64 KByte AMD instruction cache as necessarily larger than the
Intel 12 Kmicro-op cache? As far as I know, the rest of the review may be
spot on, but this item does make me wonder.
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"Wayne Youngman" wrote in message
> Hi,
>
> Reviews so far. . . .
>
> Anandtech: Intel's Pentium 4 E: Prescott Arrives with Luggage
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://tinyurl.com/yuqml</font" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yuqml</font</a>>
>
> Tomshardware: Intel's New Weapons: Pentium 4 Prescott
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://tinyurl.com/2cd45</font" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/2cd45</font</a>>
>
> --
> Wayne ][
> <new specs coming soon!>
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> >> Stay informed about: Intel's New Weapons: Pentium 4 E (Prescott) |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:56 pm
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"Wayne Youngman" wrote in message
> Hi,
>
> Reviews so far. . . .
Who needs a review? I've had one for over a fortnight. The architecture
might make sense once it hits the 4.5GHz or so area and there's software
around with SSE3 support, but right now, Northwood is a better bet IMVHO.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:16 am
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Sounds straight enough for me!
Ta.
Pete
"Richard Hopkins" wrote in message
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> > Hi,
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> > Reviews so far. . . .
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> Who needs a review? I've had one for over a fortnight. The architecture
> might make sense once it hits the 4.5GHz or so area and there's software
> around with SSE3 support, but right now, Northwood is a better bet IMVHO.
> --
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> Richard Hopkins
> Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:50 am
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Richard Hopkins wrote:
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> Who needs a review? I've had one for over a fortnight. The
> architecture might make sense once it hits the 4.5GHz or so area and
> there's software around with SSE3 support, but right now, Northwood
> is a better bet IMVHO.
What really astonishes me is that they also release a 533MHz 2.8E Prescott
without HT. What's the point -- for machines that can't do faster than
133MHz bus speed, the Northwood 2.8 and 3.06HT are faster -- the latter
quite a bit faster, and at about the same price.
Unless SSE3 makes a *gargantuan* impact, I can't imagine any value
whatsoever in the more power-hungry and slower Prescott 2.8E.
Regards,
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Intel's New Weapons: Pentium 4 E (Prescott) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Prescott is best read as capability & economics:
o Capability - architecture change allows higher clock than Northwood
o Economics - die-shrinkage allows more per unit area, lower cost, etc
The real change will be later this year; BTX, new-socket, new RAM,
new PCI-X bus, and probably gigabit on most boards re net-u/g-pull.
Oh, and 100W+ per CPU, which will make dual boxes cosey.
Then after that, probably a clock/watt improvement as usual.
Lower your costs to allow aggressive price-cutting if need be, so get
people into the P4 Prescot platform quickly soaking up the floaters,
the early adopters and the upgraders. Then obsolete it all out by new.
"IT Taxis - going from A-B via Andromeda"
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:23 am
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To add, the 103W of Prescott is the thermal avg/design,
the theoretical maximum is probably 15-20% higher - 120W.
In tests with the same cooler as the P4-N-3.2Ghz it was
found that the temp was 64-65oC vs 45oC for the former.
Hmmm, Intel is moving into the domestic consumer market
with objective of displacing George Foreman's grilling machine.
"We see this as a natural move for us, we can't include the
kitchen sink with our machines, but the oven & grill we can".
Can't wait to see a rack of dual-Prescot-Xeon's in 1U...
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 11:01 am
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Dorothy Bradbury wrote:
> To add, the 103W of Prescott is the thermal avg/design,
> the theoretical maximum is probably 15-20% higher - 120W.
> In tests with the same cooler as the P4-N-3.2Ghz it was
> found that the temp was 64-65oC vs 45oC for the former.
>
> Hmmm, Intel is moving into the domestic consumer market
> with objective of displacing George Foreman's grilling machine.
> "We see this as a natural move for us, we can't include the
> kitchen sink with our machines, but the oven & grill we can".
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> Can't wait to see a rack of dual-Prescot-Xeon's in 1U...
Inert liquid immersion with liquid nitrogen cooling assist?
I can't wait to see what happens when they put one of these in a laptop.
Oh, sorry, I forgot that the industry renamed them "notebooks" because of a
lawsuit where someone got burnt... Anyhow, that won't happen now, because
the power consumption is so high that the battery gives out before you
scorch yourself. This is called progress.
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