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v-tech

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Since: Oct 27, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:21 pm
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Hi Group

Looking round to buy a TFT for my fast gaming rig.
As I will be going from a CRT monitor what would be the best TFT type
monitor to give me no ghosting when playing FPS.
Looking for a 17" - 18.1" model.


Cheers

Pete

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HamMan4

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:04 pm
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"v-tech" wrote in message

 > Hi Group
 >
 > Looking round to buy a TFT for my fast gaming rig.
 > As I will be going from a CRT monitor what would be the best TFT type
 > monitor to give me no ghosting when playing FPS.
 > Looking for a 17" - 18.1" model.
 >
 >
 > Cheers
 >
 > Pete
 >
 >

As long as you keep clear of the bargain ones you should be fine.

I have a 15" LG 1510S and have never seen any of the problems normally
associated with TFT.

Steer clear of the ultra low response ones, they have far less colors, and
the image is really poor.

Best thing to do is go into a shop and ask to see a game or DVD bieng played
on the demo model.


Hamman

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Thomas5

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:17 pm
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HamMan wrote:
  >> Looking round to buy a TFT for my fast gaming rig.
  >> As I will be going from a CRT monitor what would be the best TFT type
  >> monitor to give me no ghosting when playing FPS.
  >> Looking for a 17" - 18.1" model.
 >
 > As long as you keep clear of the bargain ones you should be fine.

Well........ My dad has an Eizo 16" screen, very nice, stylish, and high
quality, BUT... 45 ms response time... It's great for internet, office
etcetera, but I watched a 3D Mark demo in dual screen mode, with my 19" crt
connected too, and the difference was very very clear... Do look at response
time, but be careful ofthe colour loss and such in the very low response
types.

Thomas
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Daniel Yates3

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:23 pm
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"v-tech" wrote in message

 > Hi Group
 >
 > Looking round to buy a TFT for my fast gaming rig.
 > As I will be going from a CRT monitor what would be the best TFT type
 > monitor to give me no ghosting when playing FPS.
 > Looking for a 17" - 18.1" model.
 >
 >
 > Cheers
 >
 > Pete
 >
 >

I cant help but feel the standards in TFT monitors are going backwards - all
this ghosting and slow response times etc. I got a 15" LG TFT with my PC
from Tiny just over 2 years ago now. AFAIK it is not a super dooper monitor
tyrooper type thing but it does the job. I have never seen ghost images on
it, it has wat i would term real time response and has been a treat for
gaming as I no longer get a bad headache after 4 hours on Battlefield 1942
simply because it has no refresh rate.

Daniel
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David Maynard

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:23 pm
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Daniel Yates wrote:


 >
  >>Hi Group
  >>
  >>Looking round to buy a TFT for my fast gaming rig.
  >>As I will be going from a CRT monitor what would be the best TFT type
  >>monitor to give me no ghosting when playing FPS.
  >>Looking for a 17" - 18.1" model.
  >>
  >>
  >>Cheers
  >>
  >>Pete
  >>
  >>
 >
 >
 > I cant help but feel the standards in TFT monitors are going backwards - all
 > this ghosting and slow response times etc. I got a 15" LG TFT with my PC
 > from Tiny just over 2 years ago now. AFAIK it is not a super dooper monitor
 > tyrooper type thing but it does the job. I have never seen ghost images on
 > it, it has wat i would term real time response and has been a treat for
 > gaming as I no longer get a bad headache after 4 hours on Battlefield 1942
 > simply because it has no refresh rate.

You may not know what the refresh rate is, or be able to control it, but
LCDs operate on an X-Y scan similar to CRTs.

 >
 > Daniel
 >
 >
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:08 pm
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David Maynard wrote:
 > Daniel Yates wrote:


  >>
   >>> Hi Group
   >>>
   >>> Looking round to buy a TFT for my fast gaming rig.
   >>> As I will be going from a CRT monitor what would be the best TFT
   >>> type monitor to give me no ghosting when playing FPS.
   >>> Looking for a 17" - 18.1" model.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> Cheers
   >>>
   >>> Pete
   >>>
   >>>
  >>
  >> I cant help but feel the standards in TFT monitors are going
  >> backwards - all this ghosting and slow response times etc. I got a
  >> 15" LG TFT with my PC from Tiny just over 2 years ago now. AFAIK it
  >> is not a super dooper monitor tyrooper type thing but it does the
  >> job. I have never seen ghost images on it, it has wat i would term
  >> real time response and has been a treat for gaming as I no longer
  >> get a bad headache after 4 hours on Battlefield 1942 simply because
  >> it has no refresh rate.
 >
 > You may not know what the refresh rate is, or be able to control it,
 > but LCDs operate on an X-Y scan similar to CRTs.
 >
  >>
  >> Daniel

Sort of true. He's really talking about the flicker rate, not refresh rate.
I sympathize with him about the headache problem. TFT displays do not have a
flicker regardless of the refresh rate; the pixels stay at whatever colour
is set until refreshed. That makes them much easier on the eyes or brain,
whatever gets the damn headache looking at a flickering display for
hours.You can see this by waving your fingers in front of the screen. A CRT
will give you a confusion of fingers, the TFT screen shows a blur just like
doing it in front of a window.
This also makes D-cinema films super excellent to videotape, the digital
projectors don't flicker and cause the annoying banding seen on most
el-cheapo pirated film videos that have been recorded by a theatregoer. Not
that I'm suggesting you go and try to tape a film, of course. Especially the
turkeys that have been shown so far in D-cinema (SWep2 anyone?).

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:49 am
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Bodi wrote:
 > David Maynard wrote:
 >
  >>Daniel Yates wrote:
  >>


   >>>
   >>>
   >>>>Hi Group
   >>>>
   >>>>Looking round to buy a TFT for my fast gaming rig.
   >>>>As I will be going from a CRT monitor what would be the best TFT
   >>>>type monitor to give me no ghosting when playing FPS.
   >>>>Looking for a 17" - 18.1" model.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>Cheers
   >>>>
   >>>>Pete
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>>I cant help but feel the standards in TFT monitors are going
   >>>backwards - all this ghosting and slow response times etc. I got a
   >>>15" LG TFT with my PC from Tiny just over 2 years ago now. AFAIK it
   >>>is not a super dooper monitor tyrooper type thing but it does the
   >>>job. I have never seen ghost images on it, it has wat i would term
   >>>real time response and has been a treat for gaming as I no longer
   >>>get a bad headache after 4 hours on Battlefield 1942 simply because
   >>>it has no refresh rate.
  >>
  >>You may not know what the refresh rate is, or be able to control it,
  >>but LCDs operate on an X-Y scan similar to CRTs.
  >>
  >>
   >>>Daniel
  >>
 >
 > Sort of true. He's really talking about the flicker rate, not refresh rate.
 > I sympathize with him about the headache problem. TFT displays do not have a
 > flicker regardless of the refresh rate; the pixels stay at whatever colour
 > is set until refreshed. That makes them much easier on the eyes or brain,
 > whatever gets the damn headache looking at a flickering display for
 > hours.You can see this by waving your fingers in front of the screen. A CRT
 > will give you a confusion of fingers, the TFT screen shows a blur just like
 > doing it in front of a window.
 > This also makes D-cinema films super excellent to videotape, the digital
 > projectors don't flicker and cause the annoying banding seen on most
 > el-cheapo pirated film videos that have been recorded by a theatregoer. Not
 > that I'm suggesting you go and try to tape a film, of course. Especially the
 > turkeys that have been shown so far in D-cinema (SWep2 anyone?).

Right. LCDs have more persistence (how fast the crystalline structure will
change) than CRT phosphors. That, however, is also what cause the ghosting
on the slower ones.
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